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>>> taxes, education, reproductive rights when you're mitt romney what's wrong with a little change of heart? it's wednesday, october 10th, and this is "now." >>> joining me today, msnbc political analyst and georgetown university professor michael eric dyson, the golden throat. the host of msnbc's the cycle steve kornacki, msnbc contributor and queen bee of thegrio.com joy reid and new york times magazine editor mr. sunday morning himself, hugo lingren. there are 27 days to the election, meaning we still have time for 27 new and exciting policy shifts from governor mitt romney. and who better than the country's explainer in chief to outline the paradox of the mittens. >> i had a different reaction to that first debate than a lot of people did. i mean, i thought -- i thought wow. here's old moderate mitt. where you been, boy? i missed you all these last two years. >> call it the merry go mitt. governor romney has completed a full 360-degree rotation, changing his views so many times on -- so many times on some of his core beliefs that he's right back to where he started decades ago.
cut down talks completely on jobs and wanting to cut the education credit. the president signed the "dream act," and hundreds of thousands of students are able to get their education. i am educated. i put my son through law school. it is his birthday today on columbus day, october 8. we moved to california when i was 8 years old. my mother remarried and my stepfather was a marine at camp pendleton and coronado. host: thank you for the call. guest: everything she said, i disagree with. she did talk about lowering the cost of education for kids getting into college. that is significant. she also talked about the blue part of the state that has really struggled. over the last 30 or 35 years. it's now starting to come back with a gas and oil industry, making sure that it is safe, with the steel industry, it's starting to come back. and certainly with the automotive industry. we have to be positive about those kind of things. if we continuously be rated president and start saying government is not working, voters react to that. jay and i know that go to washington or columbus, they d
and people for its neighborhood canvas program. >>> town hall meeting will be held to discuss education and its future in california. the gathering will be held with education officials. they hope community members will bring their concerns and ideas to that forum. >>> the program starts this morning at 9:00 a.m. community members can show up at 8:30 to sign it. it will be held at the san mateo city hall. >>> oakland student, teachers and families will rally in front of a local high school. they are concerned about the cuts to public education and services to children and families. they hope sharing personal stories will urge people to support prop 30. >>> right now, david blain is standing on a 20-foot platform surrounded by millions of volts of electricity. have crazy. he started at 4:30 yesterday in manhattan. he is wearing a 20-pound chain suit. he plans to remain on that platform without food for 72 hours. >> this is beyond impressive. and it is amazing. it is sort of like the harry howdini story. >> so blain's doctor says the main risk, exposure to by-products of that electric fin
was a leader in education funding. erika derry: and the fact that california isn't making it a priority frustrates me. dan hurd: i'm ashamed of that, and i don't want this to continue for my daughter. brenda kealing: prop 38 is going to bring a lot of money to our schools. suzan solomon: the money stays at the school site. cade derry: what i would really like to see is that the teachers... that were laid off come back to the school. navaz hurd: a smaller class size. navaz hurd: as a mom i want that. as a teacher i want that. it was a tough day and night on the diamonds. both teams dropped the post season openers. >> it's not over yet. the a's started with a bang yesterday in detroit, center fielder cocoa crisp leads off the game with a home run off of verlander to put the a's up 1- 0, verlander struck out 11 batters in 7 innings of work. nine this morning, pacific time. closer to home, matt game two set to begin at 9:00 this morning. up with hour from now. close toe home, mat took the mound against the reds. cincinnati, jumps out in to early lead on a 2-run homer. philip in third. six s
these politicians say unless we send more tax dollars to sacramento, they'll cut education again. here's a new approach. prop thirty-eight sends billions in new education dollars straight to our local schools, and guarantees the politicians can't touch it. thirty-eight will restore the education cuts from sacramento. so remember this number. thirty-eight.
improvements in public education, safety, welfare reform, and i described how worked with leaders in the other party to get results for the people. the bad economy, his decision, his choice serving as national party chairman rather than focusing on the economic crisis in virginia. it is the great, and answer a question in this campaign. how does a governor decide to take on a second job, giving partisan speeches, well over 100,000 jobs are lost here in virginia. if he had given his governorship the full attention, he might have avoided some mistakes like increase in college tuition by over 40%. if he had been listening to the people of virginia who are really facing tough times, he might not have proposed raising taxes on working people, working women, seniors, small business owners, and people earning $17,000. he might tip been against the sequestration deal threatening jobs in virginia right now. but he made different choices. soon, you'll get to choose. if i have the honor of being your senator, i will give all my energy to working with both parties and getting america us sending once again
security and medicare and medicaid and education and so forth come from the ground up. they're what people want, they're what people need, they're what people voted for. they're part of the fabric of american life. they're not trickle-down anything. and what the president has to do and what joe biden has to do tomorrow night is to confront that notion. joe biden has to not only defend the president and attack paul ryan for his libertarian ideas, joe biden has to defend social security and medicare and the very idea of the usefulness and the importance of government in sharing responsibility in america, a big, heavy lift for joe biden tomorrow night. >> it's a heavy lift, howard, i agree, but it's also right in his wheelhouse. everyone in this country knows his middle class background. he is true to his value of helping the middle class. he legislated that way for 30 years in the senate. some think that joe biden's been put in an untenable position, a tough position. but isn't this good for biden? and i think for the president to come out and say joe's got to be joe, that's kind of saying,
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advocate for the girls education. and there has been an outpouring of support for her in pakistan and around the world. >>> in egypt, the second largest of the great pyramids is now completed. visitors could once again explore those tombs from egypt's old kingdom that have been restored with better lighting and ventilation. egypt's tourism industry has sufferedded due to the resolution and officials are hoping that the tourists will return once again and spend money. >>> i've been working 18 hours day, being paid very little money. >>> a push to shut down the human drug trafficking. >>> and also our chief meteorologist bill martin is tracking a chance of showers before a change in our weather. what we can expect coming up in his complete bay area forecast. >>> proposition 35 aims to increase the prosecution of the human and sex trafficking. showing us that a dark side of the bay area that few will see and why some say that prop 35 is not the solution to the problem. here is tonight's special report. >> reporter: the ladies of the night of san jose sometimes work in the day. >> we
know, we have a crisis in education in this country. and, you know, by most measures and some different coordination when you look at where the united states is, you know, whether it's early childhood education or math scores for high school students, we're often not even in the top 50 any more where we used to be at the top. i think it's important to have, you know, material for young kids to be interested in, and, you know, my experience has been that kids are interested in astronauts and space and they are also interested in animals. so i put the two there together and hopefully they will be interested in this book. >> hopefully they will want to be astronauts one day like my son who is in the building today. i thought it was the most incredible moments at the democratic convention when your wife gabrielle giffords led the pledge of allegiance. it brought some people to tears. >> i was in back stage trying to watch with a lot of other people. i didn't get the full experience. it was a great moment for the people not only watching on tv but those in the stadium, but it was, you know,
either because they are frustrated or because they want to get more training or education. some people are finding jobs. economists have looked at different calculations of which is the better factor -- the bigger factor, or people dropping out or getting more education and training and my understanding is that there are equal roles being played by each for spirit -- each force. but there are definitely some dropping out. some of that is the baby boom generation starting to retire. it may not be a "dropping out," but people choosing to retire and leave their jobs. some older people may have lost their jobs and cannot find new ones and are taking early social security benefits. there is some of that. host: mr. r doane, the labor force participation -- mr. nardone, a labor force position rick, please explain this. guest: the take the people who are employed in those who are unemployed and combine them and you get what is called the labour force. divide that by the population in at 16 and over and you're of the force participation rate. is the proportion of the population that is either e
that bought into a university -- got into a university only got into a physical education program that the program includes all the star athletes. every star athlete in the school happens to be black or hispanic or asian or something else. they have now reached critical mass of 20% that the university in the situation cannot use race in the holistic way that grutter permits? >everyone of their students who happens to be minority will end up in the program. do you not think the university should consider it needs a different diversity? >> the factor is a choice. you have a critical mass of students. they choose to major in different things. that is the problem of classroom diversity. what are they not in the small classrooms? why does that happen? you would say that is an aberration. what is causing it? >> are facing the same thing when we are looking at the holistic measure we are looking for the student who is a nuclear scientist? >> no. it did not take into account the interests. but not as if you're going to major in physics. -- their not going to use you in major physics. they
war 14 years old you do not have any rights -- some would say. >> i have the right of education. i have the right to play, sink, talk and go to market. i have the right to sing and talk and speak. -- and much admired woman. that taliban is claiming responsibility and it is vowing to make another attempt on her life. >> showers are run the bay area but they are coming too close for the most part. are round-the bay area. the latest rotational over the ocean and it could see towards the south we could see some wrap around shower activity. moving from the south-west and to the north- west. however, we could see just cloud coverage. keeping your eye on this portion of the screen. as we see this pushing towards thursday evening the south bay and the inland valleys. but mainly just cloud coverage by 1:00 a.m. with conditions are mainly dry. temperatures are going to be 40's and '50's. 40's through livermore. and portions of the north bay as we continue towards it . 70's. the futurecast showing 70's and we could see low 70's. for tomorrow. 70's in palo alto, los gatos. 70's in cupertino an
. there are, of course, moderates in iran. half of the country is weste westernized, highly educated. and there are moderates, but they don't run the country. on october 9th, 2012, who runs iran? do we still not know? >> in the intelligence business, iran is right up there with north korea as probably the hardest targets to really understand. >> certainly not ahmadinejad. >> no. supreme leader. >> it's the supreme leader along with -- >> the mullulahs. >> aren't they intimidated by the revolutionary guard? >> you've got the people financially essential to the regime. several power centers. but -- >> the supreme leader is first. and the answer is we don't really know. >> if we don't know that, the strategy here also psychological? and at what point do you start doing this publicly? isn't that a second step? start doing this publicly and aligning with the opposition publicly? isn't that to an extent potentially a destructive strategy if you're a little hand fisted about it? >> i would do it rather than later because the guys are feeling the heat. at the end of the day, mika, they've go
a blog when she was 11 about life under taliban rule and calling for girls education. the attack was criticized by the pakistani government and u.s. state department. >> directing violence at children is barbaric, cowardly and our hearts go out to her and the others who were wounded as well as fair family. >> the taliban called her receivism a new chapter and said we have to finish the chapter. >> the supreme court begins rethinking affirmative action. they will hear argument whether colleges can use race when considering admissions. abigail fisher, a white woman said she was denied admission to the university of texas because of race. nine years ago the court ruled schools can use race to diversify their student body. >> the judge in the trial of jerry sandusky says he expect the 68-year-old to die in prison. sandusky was sentenced 30 to 60 years behind bars for sexually abusing 10 boys. some of his victims were in court. sandusky maintains his innocence throughout. the scandal rocked the school and caused long time football coach joe paterno his job. >> watching and waiting as
and education. surveyusa asked that question two different ways. first, simple question: how certain are you to vote to raise taxes? the majority 38% said no. but when prop 30 was explained in detail the results were different. the majority said that they would vote to raise the sales tax temporarily by a quarter percent. and raise the income tax on those earning more than $250,000 a year. >>> thousands of californians are getting hit with a new fee to pay for fire prevention services. as cbs 5 consumerwatch reporter julie watts explains, what you have to pay depends on where you live. >>> reporter: >> this is a bill i got from the state of california for extra fire fees. >> reporter: the bill came last month and it caught barry by surprise. >> i didn't know what it was. i thought it was a scam. >> reporter: it wasn't. barry is one of more than 800,000 california homeowners who live in state responsibility areas highlighted in red here. they are now receiving bills averaging $150 to help cover the cost of preventing wildfires. and many are not pleased. >> i feel that i pay taxes already to o
that interview. >> so i thought i must stand up for my rights, the right for education, the right for speech. >> some people might say you're 14. you don't have any rights. you just have to listen to mom and dad. >> no, i have the right of education, the right to play, the right to sing, the right to talk. i have the right to go to market. i have the right to speak up. >> reporter: we can objectively report that this is an absolutely adorable young girl and is also fiercely determined in confidence. don, we put a lot of tough questions to her back late last year and she stood up to us. this is a tough girl that many say she represents the best of pakistan. >> thank you very much. we appreciate it. >>> mitt romney is accused of flip flopping during the debate. former president bill clinton goes even further. >> so just show up with a sunny face and say, i didn't say all that stuff i said the last two years. >> next, does mitt romney have a multiple personality? plus, what he told an iowa newspaper that's making some people scratch their heads. all energy development comes with some risk, but
, she appealed for more educational funding saying children are falling behind in school. >>> the list of the most influential men of 2012. you won't believe who is o top the list, bond, james bond. but it's not the actor, just the fictional character. likely due to the new 007 film coming out. >> and finally, taylor swift is setting the record straight about crashing that kennedy wedding in august. she has been dating connor kennedy tells rolling stone it was all just a big misunderstanding. and she never showed up uninvited or wanted to upstage anyone. any ideas how she is going to write a song about this. >> is she being tarnished a little bit? >> it's too often in the news about the dating life of taylor swift. >> maybe you should write songs about it. >> maybe. >> they should call you up and get advice on dating. >> i can do a "dear abby" thing. i can start it today. >> you're on to something. hop on to your twitter page. everybody at home, hop on and ask bill on his twitter page. >> dating advice. >> foolproof. >> i'm lynn berry. stay tuned. "way too early" is next. >>> tonight,
and paid for education and other services, it comes out of the coal field -- the coal mines and oil fields. the question becomes, is there a balance? i am a rancher by trade and i clearly understand you need economic development, but also conservation. my favorite book is holistic resource management buy out unsavory. -- by allan savory. there'll be areas where you want to protect the wildlife, but there are areas where you need to make a living. that is where sometimes the extreme environmentalists do not understand that those of us in montana need to make a living. i will stand with those counties that will try to produce the jobs for those industries. >> i did not bail wall street out and i put cops on the beat to deal with industry that you did not square with, by the way. you can say what you want, but it does not meet the test of truthfulness. when a driver everything, agriculture, oil and gas, natural resources -- we need a little bit of everything, and agriculture, oil and gas, natural resources. our recreation economy is $3 billion a year in this state to make sure we have opportu
level. let's develop more stars in education. let's invest in our teachers... ...so they can inspire our students. let's solve this. >>> top of the hour. a moving live shot of new york city as the sun comes up over the big apple. >> t.j. has the steady cam. >> he's not here. >> we can still blame him. >> welcome back to "morning joe." steve schmidt and steve ratner are still with us. and joining the table, joe says he's going to be nice today. >> i'm always nice. >> best-selling author and award-winning journalist, carl bernstein. you shall be nice. >> i'm always nice. >> in washington, krkcontributi editor for "the national review," jim garrity. good to have you back. >> look time no see. always happy to be here. >> yes, we've missed you. you know, you sent out a funny tweet yesterday, jim. a lot of people were concerned about the martha raddatz situation. a lot of conservatives were. we said earlier, i think most of us agree, we believe martha will do a good job. it's a transparency issue. >> it's a bigger issue. >> it's a bigger issue, and that's abc news, not on martha so much. but y
's according to her father. the pakinstani teen, an advocate for girls' education, despite the religious extremism. the u.s. secretary of state hillary clinton on deming the attack, urging support for women who struggle for basic rights often meets with violence. doctors say they were able to remove the bullet from her neck and that her condition is improving. however, she's still unconscious. >>> we're learning that several of lance armstrong's former teammates testified against him during the doping investigation that ended his career. more details from a new federal report on that. plus billy clubs, hatchet, smoke grenade and a whole lot more in one guy's suitcase. and nobody caught it until after he arrived here in the united states. the latest on that investigation tonight here on the fox report wy who sells those remote control helicopters at the mall. buy 'em or don't. whatever man. either way, he gets to fly helicopters all day. and he eats the liquid gold of velveeta shells & cheese. achieve your dreams. eat like that guy you know. >> bill: the feds say they're trying to figure
was attacked and shot by extremists who don't want girls to have an education, and don't want girls to speak for themselves and don't want girls to become leaders. >> the young girl now injured has been blogged and you see video of her from before. she's been blogging about life under the taliban since she was just 11. the terror group has not only aid mitted to shooting her, it says it will try to kill her if she survives. >>> investigators are trying to figure how the a man made it to l.a. from japan with weapons. he was stopped on friday after customs officers noticed he was wearing a bulletproof vest under his coat. a search of his suitcase found weapons that included a smoke grenade, a hatchet, knives, billy clubs, and a gas mask. he was on his way to boston from japan when he was stopped in l.a. he refuses to say what he planned to the weapons. so far there's no link to terrorism. >>> one day after disgraced jerry sandusky learned he will lose his freedom likely for the rest of his life, sandusky learned he's also losing his pension. pennsylvania's public employee pension moved to revo
million people off medicare and kick 200,000 children off of early education, it will eliminate the tax credit people have to send their children to college. it cuts education by $450 billion. it does -- it does virtually nothing except continue to increase the tax cuts for the very wealthy. and you know, we have had enough of this. the idea that he's so concerned about the deficits, i pointed out, he voted to put two wars on a credit card-- >>> we are going to the closing statements in just a minute. youville -- >> not raising taxes is not cutting taxes. by the way, our budget -- >> we have not raised taxes. >> martha: let me calm things down here just for a minute. i want to talk to you very briefly before the closing statements about your personal character. if you were elected, what could you both give to this country, as a man, as a human being, that no one else could? >> honesty. no one else could? there are plenty of fine people who could lead this country. but what you need are people who when they say they are going to do manage, they do t. what you need, when people see proble
lines. she was targeted by the taliban for demanding that girls get equal access to education. and they say the next 24 hours after surgery are going to be critical. 10 doctors waiting to see if the extreme swelling in her head will hopefully be reduced. >> amazing some times the role she has taken on in society. what a symbol she has become. at a young age. what she is fighting for, something we take for granted. she is literally fighting for her life because of the cause there. the doctor said one doctor said the bullet has affected some parts of her brain, but there's a 70% chance she will survive. certainly welcome news. all thinking and praying for her. brave little girl. >> for sure. >>> moving on dozens of american airlines pilots put their labor frustration on display in the nation's capital. the pilots protested at reagan national airport saying the carrier received bankruptcy court approval to reject the cba, they complained, management is implementing new terms that adversely affect their working conditions, pay, and retirement. >> american's dra
is scheduled this morning in chicago to introduce the new city's chief education officer. a former teacher and administrator for cleveland ohio. she has been filling in as interim ceo since the former ceo resigned that happened just three weeks after the big teachers' strike. the mayor hand- picked the new ceo of questions about her man is becoming a distraction. will see what comes out of that. the price to mailing letters going up again the u.s. postal service started announced starting in january he stempel cost 46¢ that is up one penny. for $1.10 customer cam mail a letter in thany where in the world. >> will take a break at 4:25 a.m. we have more straight ahead and live look of lost angeles where this rspace shuttle endeavor is troubling to the california signed center from lax this will be to a trip. more on that story coming up. we will get an update on the weather with erica. more it could not lead to the end of the game because anything can happen with the oakland fans. there's always next year. in the anything could happen with the oakland a's we have seen them do this time and
of education. she replaces the last seagull it did not work out and he stepped down. it was a mutual decision at the the teachers' strike was resolved. that was the first the welcome mat to the kron for more news just in by the shot winter is just around a corner. >> scattered showers will continue to impact lake tahoe and that whole area as we head into the afternoon wore on your whether coming up in just a bit. >> takes a lot erika of the most popular hulling costing romney are to thank for that the renewed interest in the big bird after the news that an example of a needless government expense by mitt romney the obama campaign has picked up on that used big bird in a negative that against romney. the cost of flying off the shelves there offering the cost of for both menn bay bridge. [ male announcer ] introducing sizzler's signature sandwiches. starting at $6.99. our tri-tip with hand-breaded onion straws, our crispy shrimp smothered in bang bang sauce, and tuscan chicken on focaccia. sizzler. >> the backup from the accident this morning is still there. it is slowly starting to loosen up t
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. the american people have a choice, it's their responsibility to get educated and make a choice. gerri: nick, to you. we had a screen that showed 150 million federal grant, zero batteries produced. there's other numbers as well. this ignores the property taxes, forgave annually for business taxes. it's more than just $150 million; right? >> oh, absolutely. that gets to the heart of the problem with government subsidies is that these companies, once dependent on the federal government and the taxpayers' dollar, they stay dependent on the government's dollar. that's why we see programs like the ethanol policy continually dependent on the government since 1978 and once they get stuck on this government dependence, it's hard to wean them off because they really don't understand their true cost point, and they don't have that true incentive to be competitive. gerri: they exploit the money, go after it, they know how to do it. nick, congressman, thank you for coming on tonight ill line illug this program. i hope you both come back, thank you. >> thank you. >> thank you. gerri: all right. many empl
. dan hurd: when i was a child, california was a leader in education funding. erika derry: and the fact that california isn't making it a priority frustrates me. dan hurd: i'm ashamed of that, and i don't want this to continue for my daughter. brenda kealing: prop 38 is going to bring a lot of money to our schools. suzan solomon: the money stays at the school site. cade derry: what i would really like to see is that the teachers... that were laid off come back to the school. navaz hurd: a smaller class size. navaz hurd: as a mom i want that. as a teacher i want that. prop 38 is an opportunity of a generation. >>> live drive-time traffic. we have a problem in san francisco. westbound 80 right at the 101 split. there is an injury accident blocking that fast lane. the fire department is still there along with chp. a couple of cars got into it. they're hooking up vehicles to tow trucks. this could have an affect on the bay bridge. so hearing this you might want to get out here. the bay bridge is light but it could change without one lane blocked on west 80. 7:42. let's go back to the desk.
more stars in education. let's invest in our teachers... ...so they can inspire our students. let's solve this. with the blackish-blue frame and the white dots and the splattered paint pattern, your lights are on. what? [ male announcer ] the endlessly customizable 2013 smart. >>> welcome back. take a look at u.s. equity futures at this hour. red arrows across the board. marginal, but worth keeping an eye on this morning. we also have some headlines for you. danaher selling apex tool group to bain capital, paying about $1.6 billion for the business, which makes a number of popular tools, including hand tools for the sears craftsman brand. any time people talk about bain these days, they think of romney, but he has nothing to do with this. >> i looked around for benghazi stuff on the cover of "new york times." >> and you're looking right at the bain story. >> that movie really did cause the whole libya thing. we apologized to libyans for the movie -- >> it was 100% wrong. went on "meet the press." >> they got something about rom ne's message about trade. they're going back and look
of next week, offshore wins some temperatures near 90. >>> it's the foundation to any good education, reading. but not all kids like to read. >> it's true. for some they need a little added motivation. our lady of grace in castro valley found the perfect plan. that's why they are cbs 5's "cool school" of the week. william briscoe is not your typical principal. he prides himself in knowing each an every one of of his 230 students. at castro valley's our lady of grace school. >> it's cool because after a week he was here, he learned our names. after one week. >> reporter: he is also a brilliant motivator. >> we're reading. >> reporter: he has given the kids incentive to hit the books. a month long reading challenge. >> this is a fox. >> reporter: the students read a combined 100,000 minutes in october of 2010. >> he is looking for dinner. >> reporter: the principal said they could green slime him with shampoo. guess what. he got slimed. >> the vo5 shampoo got under the goggles and i was temporarily blinded for five minutes so i had to kind of feel may way over to my office. >> sometim
. ryan is taking it seriously. this is someone who is well educated, astute, someone coming on point with facts and specifics. biden is not going to be able to laugh his way out of this one, that's for sure. don't undercount his charm and his ability to connect with the audience. he is going in to this strong, because he is a seasoned politician. he has two debates under his belt. it will be one to watch. i'm excited about it. >> andrea: a lot of the media reports say he did a good job against sarah palin. palin got a glove on him numerous times; particularly, with gay marriage. i don't know if biden is that killed of a debater this -- skilled of a debater this evening. interesting to see what happens. >> eric: what do you think, bob? >> bob: ryan will have tendency to overdiscuss the facts. get in weeds too far. biden will come back out and play it the joe way. i do think he will bomb the guy in a big way. >> andrea: how can you -- >> bob: i don't think it matters. >> andrea: he doesn't have anything to tout. if he talks about obama care, paul ripe is going to say you cut medicare $
million people watch that had debate to become educated on who they want to choose. and i think the debates do matter. whether or not the momentum stays through, the next one is a town haloform at, then the third -- hall, then the third one is -- it will be interesting to see out polls stay over time. if you look at one point in time, usual usually you can't say how this will be wednesday night. >> steve: brian, to your point about how the post game show with the obama team has been to call mitt romney a liar, it just goes to show you how desperate they are. there was a "new york times" story yesterday that said that ten minutes before the debate was up, they had a conference call. they figured out okay, we'll start calling him a liar. what's interesting is, though, why didn't the president of the united states on the stage go ahead and call mitt romney out live on television? mitt romney saw some instances where the president was distorting his image and his ideas regarding the $5 trillion worth of tax cuts and mr. romney said mr. president, that's simply not the case. barak ob
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